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In June 2006 I was very glad to interview Ken and Georgina of the
Australian band Tycho Brahe.
Well, these were the questions:
When was Tycho Brahe formed und where do all members come from?
Georgina:
It started in 1992 as a studio project with Ken using guest vocalists and me doing
background stuff. In 1995,Ken and I started playing live as a duo. The current band
lineup is all Australian except for the wee Scotsman Francis. I'm from New South
Wales but met Ken in his birth state of South Australia and Andy is a Queenslander-
where we all now reside in the sunny city of Brisbane.
What jobs do you have besides being musicians?
Georgina:
Our occupations include Medical Scientist, Human Resource Manager, Graphic Designer
and Bank Officer - you can guess who does what J?
As I know, Tycho Brahe started with four members.
What happened with Stephen Birt and Alison Barclay?
Ken:
It's actually far more complicated than that! As Georgina said earlier, originally
Tycho Brahe was exclusively a recording project with me doing programming and a
series of female guest vocalists. Georgina was usually involved in the lyric writing.
From there it became a live duo with myself taking on lead vocals and some guitar,
and Georgina playing some keyboards and doing some vocals. It was a bit uninteresting
to watch, so the live band was expanded with Stephen Birt joining on drums, and
later Alison Barclay as synth bass player. This was much more interesting to watch
onstage with four people. I think Alison just got a bit tired of it all after a
couple of years, it was hard work, and she left on very good terms. She was replaced
briefly by Lana Gishkariany on synth bass. After that we dropped back to a three
piece with Stephen, and later Andy Walls joined on synth bass. Stephen was always
involved in several other projects while he was in Tycho, and a mutual decision
was made for him to leave the band to concentrate on a couple of those, it was all
quite friendly, and we're still in touch. In fact, Alison and Stephen ended up married
- they became a couple whilst in the band. I DJ'd at their wedding! Francis Tohill
joined on drums a couple of years back - we didn't know at the time, but he'd previously
worked as a graphic artist which has been very helpful, he did the CD artwork for
"Don't Feel That Way" and "Atlantic", and has done some animation
projections for live shows, and posters etc. Whoops, I've given away part of the
previous answer.
Tycho Brahe was the name of a Danish astronomer. Also your first
album was named Cassiopeia which is the name of the constellation where Tycho Brahe
discovered a new star on 11th November 1572.
What were your reasons for this band name?
Ken:
Wow, you have done your research, haven't you?! I first heard of Tycho Brahe when
a friend of mine at university was studying astronomy. He told me the story about
how Brahe died, and I was fascinated. The story I was told was that basically he
drank too much at a banquet (he was known to frequently overindulge), and he refused
to leave the banquet table to go to the toilet - consequently his bladder burst
and he died very painfully of peritonitis over several days. He also had a prosthetic
nose - he lost his real one in a duel over a mathematical argument, or so I've read.
As you can see, he was quite an interesting character, very "rock'n'roll"
in a 16th Century way!
The reason we ended up using his name for the band though is a little more philosophical
- Brahe was a self taught astronomer, who built his own equipment, and postulated
radical theories about the nature of our solar system that changed science and astronomy
forever. He was very wrong, however, in assuming that the Earth was stationary,
and that the universe revolved around it. A flawed assumption by someone self taught,
but he ultimately made significant contributions in his field. Brahe pretty much
laid the groundwork for Keppler. He calculated the length of the year to within
one second, basically using a home-made telescope! An absolute genius! As a band,
like Brahe, we are all self taught, that includes everything - instruments, programming,
engineering and production. We often break musical rules and conventions since we
don't quite know what we're doing. So we're also working from flawed assumptions,
yet like to think we will ultimately make significant contributions to the music
scene - ie We end up with good songs and good production (well, we think so anyway!)
As you can see, the band Tycho Brahe is directly analogous to the astronomer Tycho
Brahe, and yes, that includes drinking too much, but maybe not the "absolute
genius" part!
As for naming the album "Cassiopeia", I was visiting a friend and he had
an astronomy book laying around. I looked up "Tycho Brahe" and in that
section there was a reference to "Cassiopeia", which I also looked up
- it basically said "Cassiopeia: a radio source". From that moment I knew
that *had* to be the name of the first album. The instrumental song on the album
was a piece that had been laying around for a while, it had no proper title, so
that was also named "Cassiopeia" and became the title track. By the way,
"Cassiopeia" was also the name of the hot blonde girl in the original
Battlestar Galactica, played by Laurette Spang. In the series she was a "socialator"
(Battlestar-speak for "prostitute"), although later on they made it more
child-friendly and the character became a nurse!
Your music is affected by the early eighties pop music.
What bands or artists are your examples or who inspires your music?
Ken:
New Order, Human League, and Depeche Mode are the Holy Trinity so far as bands go,
with some others like Giorgio Moroder, Berlin, Boxcar, Gary Numan, Real Life, Ultravox,
Devo, etc but basically anything electronic with a melody, and yes we have a fond
affection for that great new wave period at the very start of the '80s. Occasionally
a contemporary band will come along that has an impact on us - for example we opened
for VNV Nation here in Brisbane, they made an impression for sure. I've been listening
to a little bit of Covenant recently too. And odd songs here and there, like stuff
by Royskopp, and Chickenlips. More and more though I'm finding myself influenced
by great producers - Trevor Horn, Martin Rushent, Stephen Hague, Flood, Eno, and
some of the great Australian producers too - the sadly missed late Robert Racic,
who produced a lot of the Severed Heads stuff, Nick Launay, who did Models, INXS,
Midnight Oil.....I love listening to their little production tricks and how they
weave a track together. As the "engineer/ producer" in the band, I try
and learn from the recordings of these geniuses and attempt to bring a little of
that to every Tycho recording.
I recognized that young people like 80s music and SynthPoP too.
The problem is that recent SynthPoP music does not find the way to turntables in
bars, clubs or radio stations. How is the SynthPoP scene in Australia?
Georgina:
Very underground, the general music scene is very elitist, isolated and controlled
mostly by Austereo (a large monopolising FM radio company) who controls the content
of a lot of the television and radio programs. Here, Depeche Mode is considered
underground and if you listen to commercial radio DJs - they (Depeche Mode) haven't
done anything since the '80s. People forget that just because they don't hear music
artist's material in Australia, doesn't mean that those artists aren't huge overseas.
They forget that Australia's population is around about the same as New York's,
so we only have a comparatively small population and therefore, market.
The range of music played is very narrow and there seems to be a select number of
chosen artists who oversaturate TV and radio. It appears linked to the fondness
here, for crossmarketing and the epidemic of reality shows. For instance, whoever
wins Australian Idol appears on all the TV talk shows, gets all the radio airplay
and then they start appearing in other reality shows. There is no appreciation for
creativity or originality. Whoever has been deemed "flavour of the month"
or "soup of the day" by the powers that be - is what we are forced to
listen to, with talent or no talent.
The only synthpop you hear on the commercial stations, is retro '80s music if they
have regular '80s weekends for the 30 somethings, doing the weekend family run around
town in their cars. On the upside, there is a small Goth scene which loves the '80s
and loves synthpop, so you do get a trickle of new synthpop on the community radio
stations. All I can say is - Thank God, Bill Gates, or whoever, for the power of
the internet!!!
You use vintage equipment such as a Minimoog or a Roland TB-303.
How essential are those old electronic equipments for your compositions.
Ken:
As far as actually writing the songs, the equipment rarely comes into it, although
there are exceptions - for example "Free" on the new album "Atlantic"
was written around a pattern programmed on the TB-303, and that song would not exist
without that particular piece of equipment. The same for "Delos" on the
"Tasty" album. Increasingly our songs are being written and demoed on
laptops with softsynths, but that's just a matter of convenience. Ultimately, most
of those sounds are replaced at the recording stage by vintage equipment. I'm very
wary of becoming dependent on softsynths like so many other electronic musicians
have done - I think of lot of that laptop produced stuff is sounding very much the
same, as far as sonic texture goes. Whilst digital reproductions of analogue synths
are very very good, they *still* don't sound quite right to me.
As far as essential equipment for the Tycho sound goes, I have two Roland Juno 106
synths that are on pretty much everything. There's an old Mirage sampler, beautiful
warm analogue filters on an 8 bit sampler... "Laconia" on the "Atlantic"
album is about 90% Mirage sampler with a bit of Minimoog. The vintage equipment
is absolutely essential to the recording and production, but not really for writing,
but it's the old equipment that gives us our distinctive sound. The TB-303, a lovely
Roland SH09 that used to belong to Little River Band, the Roland TR-606 which I
adore.... There seems to be a lot of LinnDrum creeping into the new recordings for
the next album - it's a real LinnDrum, not samples. For all the synth collectors
out there, there's a complete gear list on our website. The only problem is a lot
of the gear is so old it keeps breaking down and constantly needs repair. For that
reason, we never take the vintage gear onstage or on tour, we use very carefully
crafted samples of our own vintage gear for the live work. The Tycho gear list is
here: www.tycho.com.au/gearlist.html
Your music is very danceable and melodic.
How important is for you always having a catchy hook in your songs?
Ken:
I've been raised on a diet of electronic pop, where the tune and the rhythm are
everything. Without a hook a pop song just isn't a pop song, so the hook is extremely
important! Occasionally we do something a bit more atmospheric, "Laconia"
on the new album for example, which deliberately has no hook since it's not intended
as that sort of song, if it's not intended as a pop song, it's about creating a
mood or a feeling. Or "White Room" on the "Cassiopeia" album
has no hook, it's a big mood piece that builds.
What are the backgrounds of your lyrics?
Ken:
The lyrics can be about anything or anyone, but they're often interpreted in the
strangest ways by listeners.
Georgina:
"Total Kaos" (from the "Cassiopeia" album) is about a very close
family member, who is bipolar and refuses to accept they have a problem and therefore
refuses any treatment, thereby causing Total Kaos around them. Although, Ken changed
one line to say "you lift me up with weird sensation" and so some people
think it is a drug song. "Military Option" (on the "Atlantic"
album) is loosely about a prominent political leader's obsession with power, but
unfortunately this can be applied to many political figures.
Ken:
A lot of my lyrics are becoming more biographical these days - short stories about
characters, some real, some fictional, sometimes a mixture. "Empty Days"
is a perfect example of that on the new album - it's a story about a guy euthanasing
his melancholic girlfriend with drugs purchased from a Grateful Dead fan turned
junkie. "Avarice" was one of those "stream of conciousness"
songs, it was literally written in ten minutes, including the music, lyrics, and
basic rhythm, but that is *very* rare for me. I wrote it out in one go, start to
finish, I think I changed one word at recording. I'm still not 100% sure what that
one actually means though! Something about living on the edge and wanting it all
maybe? "Seventeen" is a very old song of mine about a failed long distance
relationship. "It's Not Enough" is about going through the motions of
being in love, without any substance to the relationship - "at night those
lights are burning bright but you're not there" is basically paraphrasing "the
lights are on but nobody's home". "Free" is about losing faith in
someone, once respected, who has lost their grip on daily existence but ultimately
it's a good thing to move away from them. "Sanctify" is about being betrayed
and violated by a diseased lover. "Throwaway Fashion" was written by a
friend about supermodels. Andy wrote "Don't Feel That Way", I think it's
about a relationship falling apart, from the woman's point of view.
Lyrics for me can come from anywhere or anything, inspiration just strikes, and
the words and music often somehow "write themselves", the song just somehow
tells me where it wants to go. I rarely sit down with the intention of writing about
any particular subject. I think people sometimes read way too much into lyrics however.
For example, I've heard some *very* deep interpretations of what "Dislocation"
(from "Cassiopeia") is about, disenfranchisement from society etc - but
it's quite a literal superficial song about going to a restaurant on a date with
a woman who is a very self centered bitch, getting terrible service, bad food, and
having a lousy time! Nothing clever or tricky there! Although ultimately people
can take whatever meaning they like from the lyrics....
Tycho Brahe is not only a two person studio band. When you perform
live you have a real drummer and additional keyboard player.
How do these artists support you?
Georgina:
Andy the bass keyboard player is contributing more and more material as a songwriter
with more songs in the works for the next album. Francis the drummer, designed the
"Atlantic" and "Don't Feel That Way" covers and created the
visuals for our last live performance. He is currently working on artwork for the
upcoming remix album and graphics for our forthcoming music video. The current lineup
therefore, has a very complimentary working arrangement.
Ken:
Everyone has their jobs. It's not Georgina and Ken and the "hired hands"
or anything like that, Andy and Francis are integral to the band, like us they do
it for enjoyment, and I think this current line-up is the definitive Tycho line-up.
I could never go back to performing "live" as a two piece, it's too close
to karaoke! So they bring a lot to the live band and also to all the other stuff
an indy band has to do apart from make music. Back when we started recording what
became "Cassiopeia" in about 1998, it was a duo, and the band expanded
to a four piece during the long recording process, found it's feet as a "proper"
live act, and then went through a fairly unstable period personnel-wise. It was
very disorienting. Now it's more like a weird stable family. Or an episode of Gilligan's
Island. One or the other!
Are you also in contact with other Australian bands like Neuropa
or Real Life?
Ken:
We've not had anything to do with Neuropa directly, but do have mutual friends.
We have had a lot to do with Real Life though - I remixed "Imperfection"
for them, the title track on their last album, and they've remixed some of our songs
too. There's an excellent remix that George from Real Life has done for our upcoming
remix album, that track is also on the new Crash Frequency Collective compilation.
We've played quite a few live shows with them too, last time David Sterry got me
up on stage to sing "Send Me An Angel" during their set. He tried to get
me to do the guitar solo too but I was a bit freaked by that! There's a video snippet (click) of that from Francis' mobile phone
on our site as part of this tour report.
We've had a few lunches and drinks with those guys too. Much pizza. Many beers J.
You released your latest album 'Atlantic' on Cohaagen (www.cohaagen.com).
How is the cooperation with such a small alternative label?
Ken:
It's a very good relationship. Like us, the people behind Cohaagen do what they
do for the love of the music, and because they believe very strongly in what we're
doing. If they didn't have faith in our product, they wouldn't put their money behind
it. Cohaagen is one of those niche labels that is positioned perfectly for us in
the North American synth scene, with distribution through Metropolis and online
stores like A Different Drum. They're getting the album out to places we could never
manage from here in Australia, trying to orchestrate everything over the internet.
In Australia the scene is so small that the majority of synth bands just release
their CDs independently, which is what we've done in the past, and trying to then
get decent distribution for that overseas market, let alone promote the CD, is very
difficult. With "Atlantic" we imported copies of the album back into Australia,
the reverse of what we've done with previous albums, and that's enough for here.
North America is doing quite nicely, however we'd like to get some sort of deal
for Europe, either a licensing arrangement with Cohaagen, or a seperate deal for
that territory. That's proving a very difficult task though. I suspect the Americans
are far more open to what we're doing than the Europeans, although I'd prefer to
be proven wrong on that!
I read that your current album "Atlantic" was very
successful.
What are your future plans?
Ken:
We have a remix album almost ready to go. Francis is working on the artwork right
now. It has remixes from Real Life, Boxcar, Tankt, Angeltheory, EMP, Garland Cult
and a few others, as well as a couple of oldschool extended versions and alternate
versions. The plan is to exactly duplicate the track order of "Atlantic" but with
different mixes, it's turned out to be quite a large project. The working title
at the moment is "Transatlantic - the Atlantic Remixes", that's a scoop for you,
we haven't told anyone else that yet! We might release another single before that
though, as a link between "Atlantic" and "Transatlantic". I must mention here that
some of the acts that remixed us are in a band collective that we're part of here
called "Crash Frequency Collective". It's a group of like-minded electronic/ dark
bands that are all well established and respected, we were very flattered and honoured
to be invited into this collective. Crash Frequency has just released their second
compilation CD, it's a double CD actually this time, and we have two songs on it.
You can check it out here:
http://www.crashfrequency.com.
Well, something offtopic. The Australian soccer team was qualified (Austria wasn't :( )
for the soccer WM 2006 in Germany by a penalty shootout against Uruguay which made goalie
Mark Schwarzer to the new Australian hero.
Are you interested in soccer and how to you appraise the chances of the Australian team?
Georgina:
We are not very into sport in general, although Francis being Scottish definitely
follows "football". However, the excitement here is palpable and has suddenly
raised the profile of soccer in Australia. Soccer is the biggest participant sport
in Australia, in fact the band has its' own "Soccer Mum". However, it
is not a big spectator sport here (unlike Australian Rules Football and Rugby).
There have been problems with ethnic clashes marring its' image for years. Our best
players are all overseas earning millions, but many wouldn't be recognised on the
street here - as a recent Australian 60 Minutes story demonstrated. However, Australia's
entrance into the World Cup may be changing that. Suddenly, we are seeing more local
coverage of soccer in the sports section of the TV news and soccer merchandise is
now advertised in department store catalogues. We think it is a long shot that Australia
will win the World Cup, but they'll definitely put up a magnificent fight! Hey,
we already beat Japan, even after their dodgy goal!!!!
Ken:
I *never* watch any sport on the TV and consequently I know practically nothing
about soccer, but I *did* sit up the other night until 2am to watch the Australia
vs Japan match. I've caught World Cup Fever I think! We absolutely kicked some Japanese
ass - in the last ten minutes at least! I think it's hilarious that the USA coach
said that Australia was just in the World Cup to "make up the numbers".
Let's see.....Australia won their first match, USA lost theirs! HA HA! It's the
first time we've qualified for the finals in 32 years, and realistically I don't
think we'll get very far, but it'll be a great ride in the meantime. Next up Australia
meets Brazil, I think it's 50/50, we *might* beat them, who knows? Either way, as
Georgina said, it's raising the profile of the game here, and if it gets more kids
to play soccer instead of rugby league, which I consider a mentally deficient thug's
game, then that's fantastic.
Thank you both, Georgina and Ken for all your comprehensive answers.
Now listen to some tracks from Tycho Brahes latest album "Atlantic".
For more downloads visit the following places:
The copyright in these sound-files is owned by Tycho Brahe (Brisbane, Australia).
For all files I got the exclusive authorization of Tycho Brahe. All sound-files
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Atlantic - 2006
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Don't Feel That Way (CD-Maxi) - 2006
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Avarice (CD-Maxi) - June 2002
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Tasty (EP) - 2001 (read the review
click here)
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Cassiopeia - 2000 (read the review
click here)
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